Thursday, 13 August 2009
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The French Ban the Burkini Swimsuit
If you remember, there was a past post about the Burka+Bikini = Burkini swimsuit. Some thought that the swimsuit was a stylish yet modest way to dress for swimming during the summer and some had other opinions.
It seems that in France the government is actually doing something about their opinion. In this article it states that after reminding her of the rules and regulations of the public pool:
"A French woman named Carole, age 35, who converted to Islam has been banned from wearing a "burkini" in a swimming pool outside Paris. Carole was told that the garment was "inappropriate" clothing for public baths. Pool staff said her three-piece Islamic swimsuit she bought in Dubai - consisting of a headscarf, tunic and trousers - was against pool regulations and unhygienic."
"Yannick Decompois, the district swimming pools director, said: "This has nothing to do with secularism, but is a simply a hygiene problem. For the same reasons men are also banned from wearing shorts. The error was to have let her through in the first place," he said.
Carole, however, said she was "made to understand it was a political problem". For me, it's segregation and I am going to fight to try and change things," she said.
Earlier this year Sarkozy invoked the wrath of radical Muslims in France and abroad by saying burkas "debased women" and were not welcome in France. "We cannot accept to have in our country women who are prisoners behind netting, cut off from all social life, deprived of identity," he added."
It hasn't stopped at the burkini though. In 2004, a law was passed to ban students from wearing veils or religious symbols to school.
What do you think about all of this?
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Comments (125)
THAT's a swimsuit ? Haha woahh.
I can understand how she might feel discriminated but let's face it who has ever stepped into a pool with all of their clothes on? It's a matter of safety and hygiene. If she can not grasp the pool owner's responsibility to the public's safety, then she better just buy her own pool..and take a swim there. Religion is so stupid.
The pool management or the French government has no right to tell ppl how to practice religion. Hygeiene regions? That makes no sense. Sarkozy can have his opinion just like the rest of us, but to make laws that other ppl have to follow concerning how to (or how not to) practice religion is stepping on ppl's rights.
I say LET HER SWIM!!!!
It makes sense that the liberal state whose religion is tolerance cannot be tolerant of religious items symbolizing different. It's the same reason the Romans fed Christians to the lions.
I can't wear jean shorts in a public pool. This must be persecution against disheveled white people!
if i were wearing jeans and a t-shirt (which cover even less skin) i wouldn't expect to be allowed to swim in a public pool. as the post states, men can't wear shorts to swim either. boo frickin hoo.
how is it unhygienic?
Its not sensible..
You guys realize why france is doing this right? The people of France or rather the government decided France needed more eithnency or whatever. So they let these muslums in. And they started killing people. its a fact. its true. this is a safety issue. and thats that. it may be unhygenic, but most likely it's for safety.
I say good! Let them ban it. What a stupid idea, let me go to a pool dressed head to toe...and if my burka gets caught in something I'll just drown..no worries!
they ban this... but would they ban a wetsuit and swimming cap combo at the pool?
@Kristenmomof3@xanga - You would.
Since France is over flowing with Muslims, you'd think the pool would just have a ladies' day so they could wear regular swim suits. I don't understand how it's unhygienic, but I could see how she could get stuck and drown with the loose clothing catching on a filter (which wouldn't happen in a body suit).
If people are allowed to wear whatever the heel they want in the pool, where does it end? If she doesn't think it's right to wear a regular bathing suit, how about not hang around places where everyone is wearing regular bathing suits?
oh come on. it looks stylish and i think well known designers should dive into the burkini designing biz too. i'd love to see a Dior or Calvin Klein burkini.
One word,,,,NINJA. Lol
I really don't know how to feel about this. It's stupid to say it's unhygenic, someone else made a comment about being allowed to wear a wetsuit and cap in a pool. It's made from the same materials...
but on the other hand, they don't want to encourage cultural aspect of Islam because muslims have caused havoc in their country.
I think the problem that France says they don't want to encourage it because women shouldn't have to cover themselves. I believe that no government should FORCE people to cover themselves excessively. But if it's someone's conviction or belief that they should dress that way or even if they like the way it looks...they should be able to do it. After all...this isn't just an issue with the burkini it's an issue with burqas all together in France.
Bottom line...the government shouldn't have control over what people wear (unless their not wearing anything) and France needs to take it like a man and just say they don't want to encourage Islamic culture and beliefs because it's followers are mostly dangerous people.
Man up France...seriously
You can swim completely naked, unshaven and leave your pubes in the pool when you leave but for heaven sakes dont completely cover yourself! This is France! Have you forgotten?!
This is racism and religious bigotry. Plain and simple.
You know what I say? Good. To all of it.
Uhhh... I don't really understand any of this. On both sides it's all conflicting and my mind is just spiraling, wondering why this even is an issue now...
@roy_j@xanga - i had the same thought.. ninja lol
@black_lie@xanga - that's exactly what i was thinking.
@black_lie@xanga - @Godslittlegirlie@xanga - @salmandarrr@xanga - the skullcap/wetsuit combo is designed to limit collisions between the wearer and water molecules. it limits friction, thus allowing him/her to swim faster. there is a functionality difference between a skin-tight wetsuit and a burkini, which does the opposite by encumbering the swimmer much like street clothes (which aren't allowed) would hinder a person in a pool.
@MissPixieGlitter@xanga - But there's no mention of their reasoning against the suit as being "a safety risk", which easily could've been an acceptable excuse; They throw out a generic and unexplained "against pool regulations" excuse, without actually elaborating on it.
I think there's definitely more to it than just a hygiene issue.